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Feliks međuviki veze ka bs/hr/sh vikijima

Pozdrav, Feliks ti je malo zabagovao, pokazuje već napravljene članke i dalje u spiskovima za članke koji ne postoje na našem projektu a postoje na susednim komšijskim projektima. Ispravi ga ako može da proverava i da li već postoji veza ka članku na našem projektu u stavci relevantnih članaka na Vikipodacima. --Zoranzoki21 (razgovor) 22:13, 27. oktobar 2019. (CET)

Fudbaleri

Pozdrav, Filipe! Pišem ti povodom patroliranja ovoga. Ovo je trebalo vratiti, jer nema proverljivih izvora, bar ne u članku. Probaću da nađem na internetu. Ako si pogledao istoriju izmena, video si konstatno menjanje članka, verovatno od osoba bliskih subjektu, što se može podvesti i pod spam/samopromociju. I generalno, ako nisi siguran za statistiku fudbalera, probaj da to preskočiš kod patroliranja, jer svakako ima urednika kojima je to blisko. Ima još slučajeva, poput ovog, najčešći je ovaj. I to bi trebalo možda i pozaključavati, a ne patrolirati, upravo zbog gore navedenih razloga. Ja se trudim da izvučem maksimum kod pisanja takvih članaka, ali ako nešto ne može da se proveri, sigurnije je vratiti, da se ne bi stvarale kružne reference. A bilo je i ovakvih slučajeva. Praktično, ako nije ažuriran datum ispod statistike, možeš slobodno da vratiš i bez provere. --Lotom (razgovor) 07:43, 30. oktobar 2019. (CET)

Psihopate

Prvo tvoje kolege administratori vraćaju moje izmene u koje sam unosio zastavice u šablone sa mestima stanovanja i državljanstva. Pa onda kad izmenim isti taj sadržaj bez zastavica ti bez obrazloženja vraćaš. Onda najbolje da Vikipediju na srpskom jeziku uređuju samo administratori. To što vi radite administratori na ovoj net enciklopediji je proizvod psihijatrijskih umova. Necenite tuđe vreme i volonterski trud, S druge strane, verovatno primate novčane naknade za svoj posao od udruženja Vikimedija. Pa ste se oslili kao da je Vikipedija vaše vlasništvo, uostalom kao osnivač Vikimedije što se osilio. Fokusirate na nekog korisnika kao žrtvu i onda vraćate njegove izmene bez validnog obrazloženja.

P.S. slobodno me blokiraj! --Vragner Lojton (razgovor) 18:04, 30. oktobar 2019. (CET)

Diskord

Poslao sam ti poruku tamo vezano za cloak nešto.. Tamo mi odgovori.. Srdačan pozdrav, --Zoranzoki21 (razgovor) 18:36, 12. novembar 2019. (CET)

Growth team updates #11

Welcome to the eleventh newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

General news

• Expanding to more wikis: the team is preparing to deploy Growth features to Ukrainian and Hungarian Wikipedias. Wikis that already have the features are Czech, Korean, Arabic, Vietnamese, and Basque Wikipedias. If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together if your wiki is eligible. Then you can go through the checklist to start the process of configuring the features.
• Mentor training: we tried out our first training for mentors with the Czech community, so that experienced users can build skills that help them retain newcomers.
• The guide for mentors has been updated. Translations are welcomed!

Help panel results

Mockup of guidance while doing a suggested edit, using the help panel

The help panel was first deployed to newcomers in January 2019, and we have now finished analyzing data to determine its impact. A brief summary is below, and more in-depth information can be found here (in English).

• In summary, although we have seen a good amount of usage of the help panel, the help panel has not shown an increase in activation (whether a user makes their first edit) or retention (whether a user returns to edit again).
• This is a disappointing result, and our team has discussed potential reasons for the result and ideas for the future. Although we have many ideas for how to improve the help panel, we have decided to keep our attention on the newcomer homepage and newcomer tasks projects for the coming months.
• We'll be using the help panel as part of the newcomer tasks project: using it to guide newcomers while they complete suggested edits.
• We welcome questions and thoughts about this on the project's talk page.

Newcomer tasks deployment

Mockup of topic matching in newcomer tasks

• The first version of the newcomer tasks workflow (V1.0) will be deployed in the next weeks on our 4 priority wikis. This version will suggest articles to edit based on maintenance templates. In this first version, we expect many newcomers to initiate the workflow, but not many to select articles to edit or complete edits. We expect future versions of the feature to increase those behaviors.
• We're excited about this project because the majority of newcomers visit their newcomer homepage, and this will be the first element of the homepage that clearly asks the newcomer to start editing.
• These are the next two versions of the feature, which are already being planned:
  • V1.1 (topic matching): will allow newcomers to choose topics of interest (such as Art, Music, Sports, or Technology) to personalize their suggestions. After evaluating several approaches, we have decided to use a new ORES model built by the WMF Scoring team. The model will automatically identify the topic area of each article. We expect this to increase how often newcomers select articles to edit.
  • V1.2 (guidance): once newcomers arrive on an article to edit, we will use the help panel to provide guidance about how to complete the editing task. We expect this to increase how many newcomers actually complete productive edits.
• The project page includes links to the designs of the workflow, and we welcome questions and thoughts on the talk page.

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16:02, 18. novembar 2019. (CET)

Malo pažnje nije na odmet

Drugar, prvo si poništio regularnu izmenu o sastavu FK Mančester Siti bez da proveriš da li je možda ispravna, a potom si na članke o plivačima koje ja pišem lepio šablone „bez izvora” iako se svaka reč koja stoji u njima može bez problema proveriti na linkovima u doeljku spoljašnje veze (na osnovu kojih ih i pišem). Obrati malo pažnju na te neke sitnice --ΝικόλαςΜπ. (razgovor) 22:30, 2. decembar 2019. (CET)

!

Baš si me razočarao svojim stavom. Mislio sam da spadaš u red "ozbiljnih administratora". Vidiš i sam da mi ne daju da pišem i to iz sasvim niskih pobuda, gotovo tinejdžerskog prkosa. Pozdravi sve u Pančevu; nekad sam živeo izvesno vreme u tom gradu, i svideo mi se "duh građanskog Pančeva".Srbbolusic (razgovor) 18:27, 13. decembar 2019. (CET)

Patroliranje, 7. put

Molim te pogledaj šta patroliraš. Desetine loših članaka i izmena. Danas veliki broj članaka i izmena kao npr. Orhan Kemal i njegova majka intelektualni maturant srednje škole? Dugo je stajalo i da je Maurisio Poketino trener Crvene zvezde, to je u najmanju ruku sramota (ovde). Patrolirao si takođe ovde informacije da se u Prvoj kragujevačkoj gimnaziji nalaze nobelovci, koji su kako piše - učestvovali u eksperimentu rezurekcije istrebljene ptice dodo. Moram da pomenem i to da si označio kao dobru izmenu da je trener KK Crvena zvezda Milan Tomić preminuo 15. juna 2019. godine u hali Aleksandar Nikolić, vidi ovde. Pa te pitam, ima li smisla da se mi patroleri trudimo i proveravamo tačnost informacije, kada ti ne gledaš šta označavaš kao dobro, a sudeći po komentaru iznad i poništavaš dobre izmene? Ove loše izmene su samo 1 odsto onih koje sam primetio da si patrolirao. Mogu samo misliti koliko još ima loše patroliranih izmena. Svi grešimo, ali ovo je moraš priznati čista nemarnost. --MareBG (razgovor) 01:12, 28. decembar 2019. (CET)

Plus patroliranje o Satani Luciferu koji je otpao od Boga, i povukao sobom u propast jedan deo angela na članku Manastir Svetih Arhangela Gavrila i Mihaila. --MareBG (razgovor) 17:51, 29. decembar 2019. (CET)

Rasprava

Uključi se u ovu raspravu. Prilično je krupno, možda jedno od najkrupnijih pitanja pokrenuto. Dal ukinuti latinicu na projektu ili ne. Možda na kraju bude trebala adminska intervencija da se ukine glasanje posle ovoga, kao kršenje 5 stubova. --ANTI_PRO (razgovor) 17:08, 13. januar 2020. (CET)

Aj vidi uključi se, kad budeš imao vremena. Prilično je ovo krupna priča. Ima još oko nedelju dana valjda. --ANTI_PRO (razgovor) 01:07, 14. januar 2020. (CET)

Feliks

Na dosta mesta na ovom spisku se ne slaže broj međuviki veza sa brojem unosa na vikipodacima. Pošto su mi potrebni ti brojevi, koje da uzimam kao tačnije? — SimplyFreddie (razgovor) 20:29, 13. januar 2020. (CET)

Još jedno pitanjce vezano za bota, ako postoji pogrešno preusmerenje u nekom članku ili šablonu koje se kasnije ispravi, pa se smanji broj u tražene na 1 i to upravo bude veza ka botovom spisku, da li ga onda bot obriše sa spiska? Pozdrav. :) — SimplyFreddie (razgovor) 14:45, 25. februar 2020. (CET)

Mislio sam da ako se taj broj sa 20 (ili više) smanji na ispod 20, briše se sa spiska? — SimplyFreddie (razgovor) 23:27, 25. februar 2020. (CET)

Blokada korisnika

Filipe, blokirali su jednu učesnicu projekta Viki Senior, Korisnik:Ljiljana Sundać. Obrazloženje blokade izgleda od prilike ovako:

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Nemate dozvolu da uređujete ovu stranicu iz sledećeg razloga:

Vaša IP adresa je blokirana na svim vikijima.

Blokirao vas je Jon Kolbert (meta.wikimedia.org). Razlog: Open proxy.

Početak blokade: 22:23, 12. mart 2019 (???????).
Kraj blokade: 22:23, 12. mart 2020.
Vaša trenutna IP adresa je 87.116.176.42. Uključite sve gornje detalje pri pravljenju bilo kakvih upita.

Ako smatrate da ste blokirani greškom, možete da pronađete više informacija i uputstva na stranici Bez otvorenih posrednika — globalno pravilo. U suprotnom, kako biste raspravljali o blokadi, postavite zahtev za pregled na Meta-vikiju .

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Ovo mi je malo čudno. Žena ne radi ništa nepropisno, da ja vidim. Ajd' što je meni Korisnik:Zoranzoki21 izblokirao IP adresu i na kompu i mobilnom, moja greška - zaboravim da se prijavim. Ali ovo kod nje mi stvarno nije jasno. Učestvuje u kampanji #1Lib1Ref. Možda je problem u tome što čuva svaku promenu. Ako je to u pitanju, nije u redu da blokiraju usred kampanje, kad se vidi da radi upravo dodavanje referenci. Možeš li ovo da rešiš?--BuhaM (razgovor) 18:59, 27. januar 2020. (CET)

Poslala sam poruku i Đorđu...--BuhaM (razgovor) 18:59, 27. januar 2020. (CET)

Growth team updates #12

Welcome to the twelfth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

General news

• A training for mentors has been published. The training was first tried with the Czech community, and went well.
• Growth team features have been deployed to Hungarian, Ukrainian, and Armenian Wikipedias. If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together whether your wiki is eligible. Then you can go through the checklist to start the process of configuring the features.

Productive edits from newcomer tasks

We deployed the basic workflow for newcomer tasks to our target wikis on November 20, and the early results are exciting.

Suggested edits by type of edit.
Graph captions (top to bottom):
■ Copyedits
■ Add links
■ Expand article
■ Add reference
■ Advanced edits

• About 1.5% of newcomers who visit their homepage complete the workflow and save a suggested edit. So far, this has amounted to over 450 edits, on all wikis, coming from both desktop and mobile users.
• When we look at the edits that newcomers make, we see that they are largely positive! We are pleased to see that this feature does not appear to encourage vandals.
  • 75% of the edits are productive and unreverted.
  • 95% of the edits appear to be in good faith.
• Most of the edits include copyedits and adding links, with some newcomers also adding content and references. Copyedits are suggested most strongly.
• Click here to learn more specifics about the results so far.

Topic matching deployed

The results from our user tests showed us that newcomers are likely to do more suggested edits if they can choose articles related to a topic that they're interested in, such as "science", "music", or "sports".

• On January 21, we deployed topic matching on our pilot wikis. Newcomers are now using it. We expect it to cause more newcomers to try suggested edits, and to keep making more of them.
• In the coming weeks, we will be making improvements to the accuracy of the algorithm used to topic matching, which is part of the ORES project.

Next steps for newcomer tasks

Prototype of how the help panel will "peek" from the bottom of the page to offer guidance on mobile.

Because we are seeing positive results from newcomer tasks, the Growth team plans to concentrate our efforts on improving the workflow and encouraging more newcomers to use it.

• Guidance: next, we will be using the help panel to provide guidance to newcomers as they do suggested edits, and to prompt them to do another edit after completing their first one. In user tests for this feature, demo videos were one of the favorite features, and we will think about how these might be added.
• Starting the workflow: only about 20% of newcomer who visit their homepage begin the newcomer tasks workflow. We are going to be trying out different layouts of the homepage to encourage more newcomers to try newcomer tasks.
• Additional task types: we are researching methods to recommend more specific tasks to newcomers, such as specific links to add, or images that could be added to articles from Commons.

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18:40, 4. februar 2020. (CET)

Patroliranje vandalizama

Zamolio bih te da prestaneš da patroliraš vandalizme na stranicama o sinhronizacijama, te da ih ja vraćam nedelju dana kasnije kad ih slučajno primetim. Svi smo mi ljudi i greške se dešavaju, ali ovo je iksti put da nailazim na ovo. Pozdrav! — VLADA ^da? 21:44, 8. mart 2020. (CET)

Poziv

 Poziv

Zdravo! Želeli smo da vam skrenemo pažnju da će od 20. marta do 9. aprila 2020. trajati Akcija sređivanja seminarskih radova. S obzirom na to da je znatan broj seminarskih radova pisan lošim stilom, viki zajednica je odlučila da pokrene akciju. Njen cilj je smanjenje broja neproverenih i nesređenih seminarskih radova na Vikipediji na srpskom jeziku. Pomislili smo da ćete biti zainteresovani, pa vas ovom prilikom pozivamo da nam se pridružite. Ako želite da to uradite, upišite se na ovoj stranici.

— Žile (✉) 00:15, 17. mart 2020. (CET)

FelixBot/patrol

Trebalo je danas da ažurira statistiku, ako imaš vremena pogledaj o čemu se radi. Pozdrav.--Soundwaweserb (razgovor) 17:07, 26. mart 2020. (CET)

Vikiprojekat Biografija

Zdravo! Želeli smo da Vam skrenemo pažnju da je osnovan Vikiprojekat Biografija koji ima za cilj poboljšanje članaka o biografijama na Vikipediji. Pomislili smo da ćete biti zainteresovani za ovu temu, pa Vas ovom prilikom pozivamo da nam se pridružite. Napravite neki novi članak ili poboljšajte već postojeći. U slučaju da želite da nam se pridržite, upišite se ovde.

--Nikolina Š. ✉ 18:43, 9. april 2020. (CEST)

FelixBot

Palo mi je na pamet da bi korisno bilo kada bi tvoj bot pravio spisak preusmjerenja po broju veza ka člancima, da li bi to bilo izvodljivo? — Ranko   Niko lić  ✉ 22:07, 19. april 2020. (CEST)

E baš tako, ili da se lakše pronađu preusmjerenja koja bi mogla postati zasebni članci. — Ranko   Niko lić  ✉ 20:58, 21. april 2020. (CEST)

To je to, odlično. Hvala! — Ranko   Niko lić  ✉ 22:55, 22. april 2020. (CEST)

Evo mene opet sa još jednom fiks idejom. Da li bi se mogao generisati spisak datoteka koja su otpremljene lokalno prema broju veza (idealno bi bilo da se mogu razdvojiti neslobodne licence)? Spisak bi koristio za praćene korištenja neslobodnih datoteka, koje bi se trebale koristiti što manje, mada to kod nas nije česta pojava. — Ranko   Niko lić  ✉ 00:13, 2. septembar 2020. (CEST)

Nije hitno uopšte (što se vidi po vremenu potrebnom za moj odgovor), nego mi dođe s vremena na vrijeme da pročešljam datoteke, a ovako bi na jednom mjestu imali one koji bi trebali zamijeniti ili upotrebu svesti na minimum. — Ranko   Niko lić  ✉ 01:09, 8. septembar 2020. (CEST)

Ćao Filipe! Long time no see. :)

Na stranici Vikipedija:Dobri članci/Glasanje pokrenuto je glasanje za članak Miloš Timotijević da isti postane jedan od dobrih članaka. Glasanje traje u periodu 27. april 2020. — 4. maj 2020. --Boleyn 22:46, 27. april 2020. (CEST)

Molba

Poštovani,

Dobar dan, želela bih da Vas zamolim da ukoliko je to moguće obrišete šablon o unutrašnjim vezama koji se nalazi iznad članka koji sam pisala: Hatišerifi iz 1830. i 1833. godine. Radi se projektu za fakultet, umesto kolokvijuma. Samo bih Vas takođe zamolila da mi javite putem mejla da je sve urađeno i ukoliko ima nekih zamerki. Takođe bih napomenula da sam početnik u pisanju članaka. Moj mejl je milicabrstina@gmail.com Hvala u napred.

S poštovanjem, Milica Brstina

Slike na ostavi

Jel bi bio problem da se oglasiš pošto si član OTRS-a, hoće da brišu slike sa Medija centra i Stevana Kragujevića pogledaj moju stranicu za razgovor na Ostavi

Growth team newsletter #13

Welcome to the thirteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Join the conversation: structured tasks

Sketch of an idea for a structured workflow for adding links to an article. The goal is to help newcomers edit at high volume.

We are looking for community input on a new project to make it easy for newcomers to make real article edits.

In our previous newsletter, we talked about the productive edits coming from the newcomer tasks feature. Those good results have continued: about 900 newcomers made over 5,000 suggested edits so far. We've learned that newcomers are interested in receiving suggested edits.

Now, we are thinking about how to supply them a feed of easy edits that will help more of them be successful quickly. We have a new idea called "structured tasks". This would aim to break down edits into steps that are easy for newcomers and easy on mobile devices.

In the past, certain kinds of editing tasks have been structured. For instance, adding categories through HotCat. Now, we are thinking about how to structure the editing of articles. The goal is to allow newcomers can make large content additions, especially from their mobile devices.

Please visit the project page and respond to the discussion questions listed on the talk page. You are welcome to show this project to others in your community. You can help by translating the materials to your language so that more voices can join in. We will be having this conversation until June 18.

Expanding to more wikis

We have expanded to six new wikis, and are looking for more interested communities.

In the last two months, we deployed Growth features to six new wikis: Ukrainian, Serbian, Hungarian, Armenian, and Basque Wikipedias, and French Wiktionary. Newcomers from these wikis have already contributed over 600 edits through Growth features.

We want to expand to more wikis in the coming months, and we are looking for interested communities. French Wikipedia already agreed and will be the next one to join the experiment. We will contact several other wikis in the coming weeks to offer them to participate.

Do you think the Growth Team features would be a good addition to your wiki? Please see this translatable summary of Growth features. You can share with your communities and start a discussion. Then, please contact us to begin the process!

Other updates

39 topics are now available for newcomer tasks

Work continues on improving newcomer tasks and the homepage.

• In March, we deployed an upgrade to the topic matching in newcomer tasks. The current version offers 39 different topics using new ORES models.
• In April, we completed an A/B test of two homepage configurations. We learned that more newcomers will attempt suggested edits if the module is made more prominent. We are implementing those learnings in our next test. See the full results here.
• We are currently working on guidance for newcomer tasks. It will use the help panel to guide newcomers through completing easy edits.
• Our next step is to create new configurations of the homepage. The goal is to encourage more newcomers to begin doing suggested edits.

As usual, we are still welcoming your feedback and questions about our features. Please contact us on the project talk page!

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16:30, 18. maj 2020. (CEST)

Slike

Pozdrav, šta se radi sa slikama koje su premeštene na ostavu, jel se brišu ovde pošto su duplikat?--Zmaj123 (razgovor) 00:01, 20. maj 2020. (CEST)

@Zmaj123: upravo tako. Postoji šablon {{NowCommons}} koji možeš staviti na takvu sliku i administratori će je obrisati. --Miljan Simonović (razgovor) 00:26, 20. maj 2020. (CEST)

Long tajm

Ćao Filipe, long tajm no si ovde... Reci mi, molim te, šta me psuje ovde? --Ana piši mi 13:14, 3. jun 2020. (CEST)

A u tom zecu leži grm. Oki, će ispravim. Hvala! --Ana piši mi 13:39, 4. jun 2020. (CEST)

Patroliranje

Znaš šta, mislim je krajnje vreme da počneš da obraćaš pažnju šta patroliraš. Mi izginusmo da raspravimo to šta korisnik ubacuje na članke i menja na ostavi, a ti lagano štikliraš. Nema smisla više. --Lotom (razgovor) 11:47, 6. jun 2020. (CEST)

Filipe, poslao sam ti pp.--Vladimir Nimčević (razgovor) 23:27, 9. jun 2020. (CEST)

Savica

Pozdrav, kolega Dungodung! Trebao bih Vašu pomoć oko članka Savica. Ja, nažalost, ne znam ćirilicu, pa bih Vas zamolio ako biste mogli prevesti tekst na ćirilicu. Ako Vam trebaju dodatne informacije u vezi s tekstom slobodno ostavite poruku na mojoj stranici za razgovor. Lijep pozdrav! Bonzg (razgovor) 14:14, 16. jun 2020. (CEST)

Spisak administratora

Zdravo, upravo menjam spisak administratora pa te pozivam da ispuniš odeljak pod tvojim korisničkim imenom. Unapred ti zahvaljujem. Srdačno, Acaalexaca (razgovor) 15:47, 31. jul 2020. (CEST)

Growth team newsletter 14

Welcome to the fourteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Success with guidance

The star on this image is the week we deployed "guidance".

We deployed the "Guidance" feature on June 15.

This feature uses the help panel to explain what to do after selecting a suggested edit. For instance, if a newcomer selects a copyedit task, they are guided on what sorts of errors to look for. They can see examples of how to rewrite the text. You can try this feature on test.wikipedia.org. First enable the homepage and the help panel in your preferences there.

Since we launched "Guidance", the data we collected show good results (see image). Now, we see more users completing suggested edits than before Guidance was deployed.

Structured tasks

Design concept for the "add a link" structured task

Structured tasks is a project that aims to break down editing workflows into a series of steps. We hope newcomers can accomplish these tasks easily.

In the previous newsletter, we asked for feedback from community members on the idea. We had a good discussion in six languages with 35 community members (summary here). We have now posted new design mockups. We hope community members can check the mockups out and react to them (in any language). They are posted along with some of the main questions we are thinking about as we continue to refine our plans.

Other technical updates

Mockup of Variant D of the homepage on desktop.

• We are currently working on Variants C and D (adjacent image) of the homepage. The goal is to increase the number of newcomers who start the newcomer tasks workflow. This is the team's main project at the moment.
• We've made it easier to hide the help panel when not needed. [1]
• The welcome survey has a new question for people who created their account: language skills. The goal is to find out how many newcomers know multiple languages, so that we can learn whether it is a good idea to integrate Content Translation as a newcomer task. To make room for this question, we removed one that is not being used. [2]

Community outreach

• We continue to engage with more communities. We recently deployed the Growth features to Persian, Hebrew, and Russian Wikipedias. Learn more about getting the features.
• If your community is having a remote event, and you are interested in hearing from the Growth team, please contact us! We have already participated to two community events online:
  • The Polish Wikiconference (recording on Google Drive)
  • The Celtic Knot 2020 (video available on Youtube).

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11:33, 7. septembar 2020. (CEST)

Patroliranje

Dobar dan kolega, jedno malo pitanje, pošto si patrolirao izmenu, da li misliš da je konstruktivna i da ima smisla da prođe? — Acaalexaca (razgovor) 08:46, 29. septembar 2020. (CEST)

Growth team updates #15

Welcome to the fifteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Variants C and D deployed

Variant D in Portuguese Wikipedia

Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We hope they will increase the number of users using suggested edits. They both make suggested edits the clear place where newcomers should get started on the page. They have some differences in their workflows, because we want to test which design is better. We deployed these variants on October 19; half of newcomers get each variant. After about 5 weeks, we will analyze the data from the tests. The goal is to determine which variant is helping more newcomers to make more suggested edits. We will identify the better variant and then use it with all newcomers.

Structured tasks: add a link

Concept A for add a link.

As we discussed in previous newsletters, the team is working on our first "structured task": the "add a link" task. After community discussion on design ideas, we ran user tests on the mobile designs. We decided on the design concept we want to use moving forward: Concept A. We're now engineering the backend for this feature. Next, we will be running user tests for desktop designs.

Learn more about the findings.

Community news

• We recently deployed the Growth features to Polish, Portuguese, Swedish and Turkish Wikipedias. 18 wikis now have Growth features. Learn more about getting the features.
• Have you recently checked if all interface messages are translated for your language?

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11:10, 1. novembar 2020. (CET)

Nagrada 22. decembar

Kao što sam napisao u pitanju je najveća nagrada za naučnoistraživačka dostignuća u toku jedne godine u JNA, koja je dodeljivana pedesetak godina. Kako vreme prolazi, a arhivski podaci postepeno nestaju zbog prirode problematike i činjenice da nisu u digitalnom obliku, postoji opasnost da će sve to pasti u zaborav. Kada sam detaljno upoređivao podatke iz knjige Generali i admirali, koja je konsultovala aktuelne personalne podatke nadležne vojne ustanove, ustanovio sam da je neažurna i nekim licima koji su više puta nagrađivani nema podataka u njoj i knjizi. Hoću da kažem da bi Wikipedija trebalo da sačuva ono što još uvek živi učesnici mogu da napišu. Naravno da ne pišem prvi put za ovu enciklopediju pa sam nastojao da podaci budu pouzdani i kompletni. Nemam drugu motivaciju osim onog što čini osnovna opredeljenja ove institucije. Ako smatrate da to nije dovoljno, postupite po vašoj savesti. S poštovanjem— Mroklop2014 (razgovor) 12:44, 9. novembar 2020. (CET) Mroklop2014. 9.11.2020

Tražim objašnjenje i pomoć. Napisali ste Bez navođenja referenci. Napisao sam do sada četiri velika članka, ali mi nisu postavljani takvi zahtevi. Imam 88 godina pa molim uputite me na primer. Mroklop2014 — Mroklop2014 (razgovor) 16:01, 30. novembar 2020. (CET)

Growth team updates #16

Welcome to the sixteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Growth features show impact

Newcomer task experiments results

The team recently published our analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We are happy to announce that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers.

In November 2019, the Growth team added the "newcomer tasks" feature to the newcomer homepage. After six months, we collected data from Arabic, Vietnamese, Czech, and Korean Wikipedias. We analyzed the overall impact of the Growth features, including newcomer tasks.

This analysis finds that the Growth features lead to increases in:

• the probability that newcomers make their first article edit (+11.6%)
• the probability that they are retained as editors
• the number of edits they make during their first couple of weeks on the wiki (+22%)

We also find that the quality of their edits, as measured by revert rate, is comparable to that of a control group.

• 
  The number of suggested edits completed by each wiki each week, going from December 2019 to November 2020, with a line for the total.
• 
  The number of distinct users completing suggested edits by each wiki each week, going from December 2019 to November 2020.

Because of these results, we think all Wikipedias should consider implementing these features. Learn more about how to get them.

You can find more details about this experiment on the report page. Please post any feedback or questions on the talk page

General metrics

As of November 2020, across all wikis where the features have been deployed:

• more than 5,000 newcomers have made more than 40,000 edits using Newcomer tasks.
• more than 14,000 questions have been sent to volunteer mentors by more than 11,000 users.
• more than 2,000 questions have been asked on help desks by more than 1,500 users.

Learn more about Growth results here, and please post any feedback or questions on the talk page.

Variants C and D

Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We deployed them in October. After six weeks of these variants being deployed, we can see that they have led to increased interactions with newcomer tasks. Next, we will determine which variant is best and use that for all newcomers.

News for mentors

A separate list for workshops hosts

During workshops organized by education programs through the communities, workshops hosts like to mentor people they train on wiki. Several wikis requested to have a way to claim their mentees without having other newcomers being randomly being assigned to them. To address this need, a separate list can be created on wiki, for mentors that wish to claim mentees, but prefer not to have random mentees being assigned to them. Learn more about this feature.

Claiming multiple mentees at once

Mentors can use Special:ClaimMentee to claim a newcomer as their mentee. The feature now allows mentors to claim multiple newcomers at once.

Community news

The help panel allows people to post a message to the local help desk while editing. Previously, the tool always posted messages to the bottom of help desks. Wikis are now able to configure it to display new messages at the top of the help desk page. T261714

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15:22, 7. decembar 2020. (CET)

IRC cloaking

Hi, it seems you are the only active IRC group contact right now. Could you take a look at [3]? (and also see about appointing more GCs to help us?) --Rschen7754 02:05, 9. decembar 2020. (CET)

Potpis

E, Filipe. Imaš zastarelu oznaku font u potpisu, pa ako imaš vremena zameni je span-om. — Aca ^{💬 ● ❤️️} 22:39, 21. decembar 2020. (CET)

Hm, možda u nekoj doglednoj budućnosti. Ipak, oznaka font proizvodi linter greške visokog prioriteta, pa je valjda cilj smanjiti ih i zameniti. Naravno, možda sitničarim, izvini. — Aca ^{💬 ● ❤️️} 22:53, 21. decembar 2020. (CET)

Žalba na administratora

Pozdrav!

Želim da podnesem žalbu na administratora Željka Todorovića! Počeo je sa uklanjanjem proverenog sadržaja i sa generalnim uništavanjem člankova (uklanja tabele sa glumcima). Ovo što on radi je čist vandalizam! Ostavljam poruku svim administratorima u nadi da će njegovo ponašanje doći kraju i da će se informacije vratiti onakve kakve su bile! VelikiFan99 (razgovor) 23:10, 24. decembar 2020. (CET)

Patrol

Pristra(s)nost, neenciklopedijski stil pisanja („A poslije posao već ide lakše”), narativni prezent, aorist! (dadoše)… Zašto se ovo patrolira bez dodavanja ikakvog šablona održavanja? — Aca ^{💬 ● ❤️️} 12:16, 26. decembar 2020. (CET)

Pariz u Srednjem veku

Je l' možete Vi da ga uredite, a ne samo da ga označite kao početnički članak, a ja ne znam šta da popravim i time će mi se izbrisati za 7 dana?? Crna Ruža (razgovor) 10:38, 8. januar 2021. (CET)

@Crna Ruža: Imaš dovoljno vremena da ga popraviš, samo polako. Formatiranje teksta bi moglo bolje (pre zapete ne ide razmak), ima neprevedenih/netranskribovanih ili loše transkribovanih naziva, u prvoj rečenici u uvodu treba da stoji definicija pojma, a ne da članak počinje "s neba pa u rebra". Ima mesta i za korekciju prevoda. Nadam se da sam pomogao. — F± 23:28, 8. januar 2021. (CET)

Dungodung:   Urađeno , Provereno i Rešeno Nadam se da sam ispunio kriterijume da se šablon početnik skine. — Crna Ruža (razgovor) 12:04, 10. januar 2021. (CET)

Slike na Ostavi koje hoće da obrišu

Pozdrav Filipe. Neki lik masovno stavlja na brisanje slike od Stevana Kragujevića, koje imaju dozvolu i OTRS tiket ili kako se već to zove. Molim te pogledaj o čemu se radi, konsultuj se sa nekim od naših urednika koji uređuju na Ostavi, da se to ne obriše.— Vanilica (razgovor) 07:54, 23. januar 2021. (CET)

Mislim da sam prošao sve fotografije sa Ostave i poslao sam Tanji novi tekst odobrenja za te sporne. Ostaje nam da sačekamo da stigne na permissions-sr@wikimedia.org. Pozdrav, — Vanilica (razgovor) 11:00, 24. januar 2021. (CET)

Socijalistička Federativna Republika Jugoslavija

Dragi korisnik Dungodung! Pogrešili ste kada ste vratili moje uređivanje. Zarez u šablonu Bar percent dovodi do pogrešnog prikaza slike. --Jarash (razgovor) 20:12, 24. januar 2021. (CET)

@Jarash: vraćeno, hvala na primedbi! — F± 22:59, 24. januar 2021. (CET)

Milivoj Mića Dražetin

Pozdrav Filipe, vidim da si patrolirao članak Milivoj Mića Dražetin. Šta misliš da li je relevantna osoba? Baš nisam siguran pa sam ga zato ostavio. — MareBG (razgovor) 00:05, 10. februar 2021. (CET)

@MareBG: Šta znam, meni deluje relevantno, ali ja sam generalno liberalan po tom pitanju. Mislim da je OK da se predloži za brisanje, pa da vidimo šta ostali misle. — F± 22:06, 10. februar 2021. (CET)

Pitanje u vezi bota

Pre par godina je bot Spomenicaš postavio brojač izmena na mojoj korisničkoj strani, ali on već godinama stoji na istom broju. Prilično sam siguran da sam prešao 50 izmena koliko trenutno pokazuje. Da li to može nekako da se popravi, jer prilično bode oči. Pozdrav Nenad (razgovor) 01:43, 28. februar 2021. (CET)

@Marnenrm: hvala na podsećanju. Moram malo da ispravim bota, pa bih onda mogao ponovo da ga pustim. Gledaću da to odradim ovih dana. F± 08:20, 1. mart 2021. (CET)

Growth team newsletter #17

Welcome to the seventeenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Structured tasks

Add a link: the team is continuing to engineer on our first "structured task", which will break down the workflow of adding wikilinks to articles, and assist newcomers with an algorithm to identify words and phrases that could be made into links.

Add an image: even as we build our first structured task, we have been thinking about the next one. "Add an image" is a structured task in which newcomers would be recommended images from Wikimedia Commons to add to unillustrated articles. This is an ambitious idea with many details to consider. We have already learned a lot from community members, and we encourage everyone to look at the project page and join the discussion.

Moving forward: more wikis to get the features

Last November, our team published the analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We announced that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers. Because of these results, we believe all Wikipedias should implement these features.

We have started to contact more wikis to deploy the features, including Wikipedias of all sizes. Bengali Wikipedia recently began using Growth features, and Danish, Thai, Indonesian, and Romanian Wikipedias will be coming soon. Please contact us if you have questions regarding deployment.

We are looking for translators who can help by translating the interface. Translating is done on Translatewiki.net (it requires a different account that your Wikimedia one). Communities that already have the Growth features being deployed are invited to check on the translations. Access translations here.

Variant testing

As mentioned in our previous newsletter, we ran a test of two variants of the newcomer homepage, meant to find a version that increases users completing suggested edits. We have completed the experiment, and learned that one of the variants leads to more edits on desktop while the other leads to more edits on mobile. Therefore, we will deploy the strongest variants for each platform to all newcomers.

News for mentors

Mentor dashboard: we have interviewed mentors from several communities as we plan a mentor dashboard feature, which would help mentors track the progress of their mentees. We encourage all mentors to share their thoughts on tools that would help them.

Magic word for mentors: it is now possible to use a magic word, {{#mentor}}, to display the name of a given newcomer's mentor. This can be used on welcome messages, userboxes, etc.

Help panel questions going to mentors: in most wikis, newcomers using the help panel ask questions to the help desk. On Czech Wikipedia, we have experimented with sending these questions to mentors instead. This simplifies the newcomer experience, and only led to a increase in mentorship questions of about 30%. We tried this in Arabic, Bengali, French and Vietnamese Wikipedias, and we are making it the default experience.

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17:02, 3. mart 2021. (CET)

OTRS

Zdravo, čuo sam da imaš pristupu OTRS-u na vikiostavi tako da bi mi trebala jedna pomoć. Bio sam objavio par slika koje sam preuzeo sa vebsajta Medija Centra Beograda. 2012. godine je Medija Centar dao dozvolu za korišćenje njihovih slika pod tiketom #2012011710005331 ali nisam siguran da li taj tiket i dalje važi zato što nemam pristup OTRS-u. Ako bih mogao da proveriš da li taj tiket i dalje važi bilo bi super prvenstveno zbog ove diskusije ovde, zato što mi je neki korisnik stavio te slike za brisanje. Ako bih mogao posle da baciš komentar na toj diskusiji vezan za taj tiket značilo bi mi, da bi na kraju te slike ostale. Hvala! Vacant0 (razgovor) 15:43, 13. mart 2021. (CET)

@Vacant0: Moj stav je da je reč o staroj dozvoli, koja po sadašnjim kriterijumima ne bi prošla i mislim da se ne treba pozivati više na nju. Evo diskusije na Ostavi gde smo baš tu dozvolu spominjali relativno nedavno. — F± 22:47, 15. mart 2021. (CET)

Okej hvala ti, u buduće neću kačiti njihove slike dok možda ne dobijemo novu licensu. Pozdrav Vacant0 (razgovor) 23:07, 15. mart 2021. (CET)

Nataša Ninković

Ćao Filipe! Je l bi mogao da mi proveriš šta se dešava sa dozvolama za Portret Nataše Ninković 1 (1).jpeg i Portret Nataše Ninković 2 (2).jpeg? Nataša mi reče još možda pre nedelju dana da je poslala mejl, ali još uvek ne vidim promene u podacima o fotografijama. — Boleyn 12:10, 22. mart 2021. (CET)

@Boleynn i Miljan Simonović: Zdravo Miloše. Malo mi je teško da prihvatim ove dozvole, jer Nataša generalno ne bi smela da daje dozvole za korišćenje fotografija čijih je ona predmet, jer autorska prava drži autor fotografija, odnosno fotograf. Pošto ovo nisu selfiji, ta autorska prava ostaju kod fotografa, osim ukoliko ne postoji neki ugovor kojim su autorska prava predata Nataši. Pošto nemamo dokaz za to, onda nemamo način da potvrdimo da je ona zaista vlasnik autorskih prava na te fotografije. — F± 22:59, 23. mart 2021. (CET)

Zbog čega je to tako ako je žena svojim novcem platila svoje portrete? Kada sam je pitao za slike, najpre mi je poslala četiri koje su mi već bile poznate. Kada sam je pitao odakle joj, rekla da je jedna iz pozorišta, druga iz Heloua itd. Objasnio sam joj zašto ne možemo da ih koristimo. E onda je pitala da li mogu fotografije koje je sama naručila i iskeširala. Editorijal u belom naručila je kako bi pomogla prijatelju čije je kreacije nosila. Zašto bi fotograf polagao prava na slike ako je unajmljen? Imam sad slučaj sa fotografijom Mire Banjac, gde sam upravo pošao od fotografa do kog je lakše bilo doći nego do Mire, koji mi je rekao da on prava nema jer ga je neka organizacija unajmila da fotografiše Miru, pa da oni fotografije prodaju Storiju. Čudni su ti putevi. — Boleyn 18:46, 24. mart 2021. (CET)

@Boleynn: za razliku od anglo-saksonskog prava, u našem (i generalno kontinentalnom) pravu autorstvo je neotuđivo i ne može se ukloniti. Tako da to što je neko platio da mu se uradi fotografija nije automatski postao vlasnik autorstva nad tim delom. Postao je vlasnik fizičke kopije samog dela i ima pravo da ga koristi pod određenim uslovima, ali autorska prava nad tom slikom i dalje postoje i drži ih fotograf, osim ako nije to eksplicitno prebacio na Natašu, što bi se radilo nekakvim ugovorom. — F± 23:36, 24. mart 2021. (CET)

Aa, ok. Jasno. Videću onda da je pitam ko je radio fotografije. Hvala ti. — Boleyn 08:38, 25. mart 2021. (CET)

Batuse

Zasto si mi obrisao nadmorsku visinu koju sam postavio na vikpediu? Milance20 (razgovor) 03:15, 27. mart 2021. (CET)

OTRS

Pozdrav, zanima me da li ova dozvola za objavljivanje i dalje važi? Hvala unapred, Vacant0 (razgovor) 23:40, 18. april 2021. (CEST)

Pa ne, takva dozvola nije u skladu sa savremenim pravilima za dozvole. — F± 00:09, 20. april 2021. (CEST)

Brisanje

Pozdrav druze,zasto si izbrisao moj legotiman izvor ka stranici Euforija ?

@Vokalni trening:, spoljašnje veze se ne stavljaju u sred sadržaja članka, već samo u sekciju "Spoljašnje veze". — F± 13:30, 2. maj 2021. (CEST)

Growth Newsletter #18

Welcome to the eighteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Structured tasks

A screenshot of "add a link" feature in development in beta.

"Add a link" is now being tested in production and is nearing release on our four pilot wikis (Arabic, Czech, Vietnamese, and Bengali Wikipedias). We'll be doing final tests this week and next week, and then plan to deploy to the four wikis either during May 24 week, or May 31 week. After two weeks, we will analyze the initial data to identify any problems or trends. We expect that this feature will engage new kinds of newcomers in easy and successful edits. If things are going well after four weeks, we'll progressively deploy it to the wikis with Growth features.

News for mentors

Mockup of the Mentor dashboard.

• We are currently working on a Mentor dashboard. This special page aims to help mentors be more proactive and be more successful at their role. The first iteration will include a table that shows an overview of the mentors current mentees, a module with their own settings, and a module that will allow them to store their best replies to their mentees questions.
• We've conducted our quarterly audit on Growth's four pilot wikis to see the activity of mentors. It appears that the vast majority of mentors are active.

Community configuration

Community configuration editing form under development

We are working on project to allow communities to manage the configuration of the Growth features on their own. In the past, communities have needed to work directly with the Growth team to set up and alter the features. We plan to put this capability in the hands of administrators, through an easy-to-use form, so that the features can be easily tailored to fit the needs of each community. While we developed it initially for Growth features, we think this approach could have uses in other features as well. We'll be trying this on our pilot wikis in the coming weeks, and then we'll bring it to all Growth wikis soon after. We hope you check out the project page and add any of your thoughts to the talk page.

Scaling

• Growth features are now available on 35 wikis. Here is the list of the most recent ones: Vikipedija na rumunskom jeziku, Vikipedija na danskom jeziku, Vikipedija na tajskom jeziku, Vikipedija na indonežanskom jeziku, Vikipedija na hrvatskom jeziku, Vikipedija na albanskom jeziku, Vikipedija na esperantskom jeziku, Vikipedija na jeziku hindi, Vikipedija na norveškom jeziku, Vikipedija na japanskom jeziku, Vikipedija na teluškom jeziku, Vikipedija na španskom jeziku, Vikipedija na jednostavnom engleskom jeziku, Vikipedija na malajskom jeziku, Vikipedija na tamilskom jeziku, Vikipedija na grčkom jeziku, Vikipedija na katalonskom jeziku.
• A new group of Wikipedias has been defined for the deployment of Growth features. Please contact us if you have questions about the deployment process, or if your community likes to get the features in advance.
• After discussion with the English Wikipedia community, the Growth features will be tested on a small percentage of new accounts. At the moment, registered users can test the features by turning them on in their preferences.

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17:23, 17. maj 2021. (CEST)

Zaključavanje

POzdrav, možeš li zaštiti ili zaklučati stranicu Ulica Marka Oreškovića (Beograd). Pošto je na meti neregistrovanih vandala — Pinki (razgovor) 21:11, 21. maj 2021. (CEST)